Warrior Cats vs. Guardians of Ga'Whool

[pugsfromhell]

This (book) rant is about Warrior Cats vs. Guardians of Ga'Hoole. (I apologize if I spelled "Ga'Hoole" wrong.)

Warrior Cats, the better known of the two, starts out with a cat named Rusty who wants to leave the neighborhood and be a "wild" cat in the woods. Eventually he find the Clans. The Clans are four different.....tribes(?) of cats roaming around the areas unpopulated by two legs (humans). Its a likable series (though its extremely long and repetitive). However, what really annoys me about these books, is that there is a clear line between the good and evil cats. The same clan (Shadow Clan) is ALWAYS bad, and the same clan (Thunder Clan) is ALWAYS good. The books would be better if the writers (Erin Hunter is actually 3 different people) made characters with more depth and weren't just always the same way for no reason.

Guardians of Ga'Hoole is about a barn owl named Soren who becomes the victim of an evil plot to take over the owl world. (He is kidnapped and taken to become a brainwashed slave of the evil owls.) He and his friends escape to Ga'Hoole where the good owls live. The rest of the series is about him living in Ga'Hoole and defeating the bad guys. Its a very amateurish writing style, and I wouldn't recommend it unless you are looking for an easy read while learning about different kinds of owls. And yet again, the characters lack depth. His friends all have outrageous, exaggerated personalities and some how manage to live together peacefully. Also, I saw ever plot twist the writer tried to throw coming.

Rusty and Soren (the main characters of the two book series) are both do-gooders. Neither of them have ever done anything wrong, and they always know what the right and moral thing to do is. They are so highly advanced in their understanding or right and wrong, that most of the people around them can't keep up or oppose them. IT. DRIVES. ME. CRAZY. I HATE those two, because they go so over the top in their forgiveness and nice deeds. In that respect, the books are completely off from reality. If some one like that existed in modern day (or really in human society) they would be seen as obnoxious know-it-alls, who ALWAYS do the right thing no matter what it costs to them personally. But some how, they are supposed to be respected and loved by the other characters and readers.

Both of these books are popular and loved by a lot of little kids. I even read them when I was younger. But now that I'm older, I find the characters insufferable and they ruin the plot for me.....uh, yah. I don't know how to end this, so I'll just end it rather abruptly. Bye

[Wanderer]

Haha long post... I love you for this

Tbh, I only ever remembered reading Warrior Cats. I know I read the first book in the Guardians of Ga'Hoole (or however it's spelled) series, but I don't really remember it. And I see your point... I never really liked Rusty / Firepaw / Fireheart / Firestar. (Yeesh, I HATE how all the cats' names change every 2 pages.) I preferred Brambleclaw in the 2nd series... at least he had a little more depth than Fire-whatever. As for the owls... for some reason, all I can remember is that in the first book, a bunch of owls were marching under the moonlight. Literally all I can remember ^^

Anyway, you can't really expect character development when you have 1032948203984 main characters.

[pugsfromhell]

The "marching under the moonlight" thingy is how the evil owls brainwashed the stolen owl youths for their cause. (Supposedly its a cool metaphor for Hitler during WW2, but its not that creative, I think.)

And I expect character development, because having 1032948203984 characters is a cheap way of saying "I'm lazy and don't feel like putting work into these books. I'll keep you distracted from my crappy writing by making you try to keep up with a billion cats each with 5 names."

[Wanderer]

Ohh that makes sense. That totally made me think of Hitler... too bad the target audience is a bunch of 8-year-olds that probably don't even know that there was WWII. Just sayin'.

LOL. C'mon, Warrior Cats wasn't that bad ^^ Brambleclaw wasn't so bad, was he?

[pugsfromhell]

Yah. And I doubt that Hitler had the little German boys marching around all night to brainwash them. That would just make them tired and grumpy.

Brambleclaw was such a drama queen! If he would just calm down and look at it through the others eyes, there wouldn't be half as many emotional breakdowns for him.

[Wanderer]

Well that might not be EXACTLY what Hitler did, but the point is that he brainwashed them, right? And I still don't understand how that would "brainwash" the owls.

Brambleclaw could be dramatic, but he sort of had reason to be considering his father was like the Voldemort of the cats! Remember, what you're saying is coming from the QUEEN of all drama queens so...

[pugsfromhell]

Marching the owls around all day and night made them reallly groggy and confused. Then the evil owls would change the schedule so that they marched all day and fell asleep at night. The tired and semi-awake owls believed them and went slowly insane because owls are supposed to be awake at night and asleep during the day.

Brambleclaw should just ditch Thunderclan and go live in Shadowclan where he is supposed to live! (I'm not being mean or 'cat racist'. my "clan" is Shadow clan according to the test, so its okay for me to say stuff like that.)

I AM NOT A FREAKING DRAMA QUEEN SO THERE!>:U

[Wanderer]

Wtf...?? That's the dumbest brainwashing method ever. How is making all these owls grumpy and insane going to help the evil owls' cause? That book makes no sense XD

And yeah, I'm surprised he didn't just go live in Shadowclan like his sister. Maybe he just stayed around because he had something to prove to all those other cats. Idk, I'm not a cat so I don't know how they think...

And yes, yes you are

[pugsfromhell]

I don't know. School seems to be doing that to me, and its working.
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(yay for crappy owl?)

Staying in a miserable place where you are constantly tormented and bullied doesn't seem like a good message to send out to little kids.

NO.

[Wanderer]

I thought that was a cat at first, lol.

Staying in a place that has a reputation for evil and basically personifies evil doesn't send a good message either.

YES.

[pugsfromhell]

Yah. The ears are weird, but what ever!

But if he goes to the bad side, it shows children that not every one on the bad side is really bad. Some people are good, but just in a bad position or fit in to the wrong places. That's a much better message than "Stay where you are, because if your on the good side, that makes you good. If your on the bad side, then those people are automatically bad and you should hat them." Also, he could go there, become the leader, and change their reputation for the better.

NO.

[pugsfromhell]

*hate. I meant to say "hate"

[Wanderer]

Wellllllll I think that going over to Shadowclan when he was younger would have made Brambleclaw grow up much more differently... He wouldn't be "good", or at least he wouldn't have the motivation to be "good". Does that make sense? Because while he was in the Thunderclan, he had something to prove - that just because his father was evil, it didn't mean he was. Staying in Thunderclan shaped him to be who he became to be. Young people are especially susceptible to changing and adapting based on their surroundings; so if he ran over to Shadowclan (which would show him taking the "easier" way out), he probably wouldn't have grown up to be a "good" person, per se.